The Dessens reach their breaking point.
Oh, so we’ve seen Amanda being the mom of Charlie’s friend.
I wonder them seeing the Jason-2, was it for real or their PTSD?
Some quotes:
Yeah its definitely from the pandemic world. Jason flashed scenes from it when he saw Daniela there, the one that died. There is either some sort of quantum leakage happening, most likely I think because they are seeing flashes of each other and other Jasons, or we have a 12 Monkeys situation. Edit: I think I got it. This has to do with people who travel through superposition, it causes leakage between them. Jason 1 saw flashbacks of Ryan and Amanda in superposition. He and Amanda both saw Jason 2 in low-tech Chicago, but Jason 2 was in superposition too because when they left Ryan 2’s world they gave him Lilac Wings. As for the pandemic reaching polite sex world, Leighton 1 travelled to the pandemic world. The major connection I suspect is that it affected polite sex world because that’s where Ryan and Amanda had spent a lot of time. I’m curious though whether this is going to be a retcon situation or if it was a new thing that happened when they were away.
Interesting. And I think I’d like to watch 12 Monkeys (1995), first time me hearing it.
The whole thread is interesting too.
You too, eh? My mom had (had) the ability to turn something bad she obviously did into blame-shifting. Pure narcissism. I grew tired of it in adulthood when basically all of our interactions were just… not nice, in some way. Parents and siblings are just people you’re basically forced to know when you’re born. In adulthood however, they’re just friends you happen to know. If those friends don’t want to put in any energy into maintaining the friendship, then you shouldn’t feel bad ending it.
Yep, that scene was great, actually. So far, the best dialogue scene of the entire season.
our Jason’s going to create time travel, isn’t he
And then
YO I was just saying previously the only way to fix this is time travel. He actually would have to time travel to a time BEFORE the box was turned on to stop it. Once the box is turned on it permeates infinite. So you can’t just destroy one box you have to destroy them all. But you can’t just wreck them. You also just can’t turn it off because now there are universes that power it. The only way to stop it is to stop it before it gets turned on.
And then
doesn’t he basically have to go back in time to a point where he never even thought of the box and never let himself get to building it? or else he’d have infinite realities to need to find where another jason made the box? or i guess the realities only exist bc the box was made? or do they exist apart from each other until then, and you’re always at risk of another universe creating a box?
I want to live in the early 90s style tech/no internet world. I’m not usually one for nostalgia traps, but having lived through that era and now understanding how much damage the internet, social media, and now AI and modern tech fascism are doing to the world, we really took a wrong turn.
And then
I said this to my friend when first seeing no-computer world, but he pointed out it would be great until you need an MRI, or some other kind of modern medical treatment dependent on or facilitated by computer technology (which is most of them). Pharmaceuticals might not be quite as far behind, but basically all modern imaging, and a lot of other medical tools. Plus a huge amount of our collective knowledge gained in the last 60 years has been made possible by using computers, and especially in the last 30 years by the internet. If the social unravelling caused by technology truly brings our downfall then it will be a poor tradeoff, but if we can learn to exist as a mostly intact modern society alongside the incredibly miraculous computer technology we have adopted on a wide scale, then computers will absolutely have been worth it for the net positives they have brought us. Despite the immediately apparent social malus that smartphones and the internet have caused, the global standard of living has improved dramatically thanks to computers.
Ahaha:
Some people will build any kind of quantum reality just to avoid therapy smh
And then:
In the US, building a quantum reality just might be the cheaper option
Stop it, you!
“Will you come of your own accord?” What a pleasant fella
Ha ha!
Yeah, I agree with this one:
Think this was the best episode of the season and maybe the series.
It was also the most necessary. Not sure how to explain it, but they needed to slow things down and focus on the characters and the traumatic impact all of this insanity would do to anyone. It raises the stakes and at least for me makes me care way more about the original Dessen family we’ve been following. There are so many places that it could go from here, and that’s really exciting. The performances from Edgerton and Connely were truly phenomenal and the score for this episode was awesome.
Can’t imagine there’s anyway Jason 2 is all of a sudden a good person. Certainly felt like that talk with Amanda was all about manipulating her into eventually getting the lilac wings. What his plan is with them I have no idea.
I think there’s also a possibility Jason 1 starts turning into Jason 2 in some ways. Jason 2 went off course because he made the decision to not be with Daniela and focus on the box. Daniela now choosing to not be with Jason 1 presumably is going to put Jason 1 down the same path? Fate?
Also feels like I should be way more invested in the Leighton storyline but I’m just, not?
Anyways, all and all a really good episode and hooked me back in after I found myself fading just a bit this season.
I miss this too:
I’m confused about which Leightons we’re following. Can someone help me get back on track?
With Jason we had the rings and now the tattoos to differentiate them, but with the Leightons I think I started mixing them up during the jump between seasons.
I’m pretty sure the Leighton who’s traveling between worlds trading tech with other Leightons is the one who chased Jason1 and Amanda into the box in the world in which the box was created with Jason2… I think, at least.
But what happened to the Leighton from Jason1’s original world who Jason2 trained to use the box?
Which Leighton is the one looking at his sick father in the CDC suit? Is that tech trader Leighton?
Which Leighton is the one who showed up outside Jason 1’s apartment in low tech world?
And who is the Leighton who is like a meditation guru? Is that just a new character entirely?
Is there some visual queue for the audience to differentiate the Leighton versions that I’m just not picking up on?
Someone:
CEO Leighton has a scar above his left eye. That’s the one who built the box with Jason 2.
Does anyone know the song that was playing while Daniela was running? It was absolutely beautiful.
Oh yeah, indeed:
When she sees her father’s store the persistent insanity of them remaining even in a big city where their counterparts once lived makes no sense. Well, it makes sense only for TV drama creation. Obviously they will continue to run into people who know their doppelgangers and who will potentially later have confusing conversations with said doppelgangers. Eventually that will create a ’no exit’ situation. Very foreseeable and very preventable. Thus completely manufactured drama.